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Le Cardinal
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Posted - 2011.10.11 12:07:00 -
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So CCP Tallest, Is this the place to point out that shield supers still get a penalty to shield when jumping in? Large parts of the nerf is fine, but with reduced HPs the shieldtankers gets an extra slap in the face compared to its fellow armortankers.
And +1 for actually considering community feedback.
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Le Cardinal
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Posted - 2011.10.12 08:44:00 -
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Great, forum ate my post TWICE
90% of the replys here are ********.
A 20B endgame ship shouldnt be able to hold at least a few drones to fend off a dictor? lol. How somone could say thats a sane thing to do is beyond comprehension.
Lets go further:
Remove drones and offensive capabilty of interdictors and HICs: "Destroyer-class/Cruiser-class vessels, designed to pull other vessels out of warp."
Remove drones from majority of BS: "They have after all a designated role as well. Dont like it? bring support"
Remove all offensive capability of Cap-Industrial SHips and Mining barges: "Dont like it? bring support. Its industrial ships.
Remove mining abilities of Cap-industrial ships. They are supposed to be industrial platforms, not solominers ".
Remove ability to fit EW modules on ships not designed for it: Dont like it? Bring proper support.
I could go on and on and its not anymore ******** than most of the arguments that people in this thread spews out.
There are ships designated for most roles in the game, so if you wanna pull the role-card then make it happen to all classes.
I would like to see the reactions then from the people in this thread who support the current nerf.
No matter how you twist and turn it, you do in fact sometimes end up in situations where you are alone and without support, either from logging at a safespot or pos or whatever. Its inevitable. |
Le Cardinal
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Posted - 2011.10.12 10:41:00 -
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@ Cynonet Two: You focus too much on the dronebay. A lot of people pull the role-card, and if that is to be a principle counting for Supercaps then it ought to count for other ships as well.
And as for ewar immunity and advantages like that? Christ, a Supercarrier cost 20B. Ofcourse it should have advantages compared to its rivals.
Its the principle behind it that is flawed. Its ok that SuperCarriers get nerfed cause "Now they get their designated role", while other ships dont need to get nerfed cause they are not immune to Ewar and have to jump through gates? If you dont like jumping through gates bring support. You know, black ops or a titan. And if you think its unfair that barges cant mine solo i nullsec then bring support.
And no, cost isnt irrelevant. Or at least it shouldnt be. And every sane SC will try to avoid situations where they are alone. And the fact remains that solo SC's are as killable now as they will be postpatch, except postpatch SC's wont have any defencemechanisms that work on anything less than a capitalship.
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Le Cardinal
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Posted - 2011.10.13 08:10:00 -
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So much talk about the Hel. Fix ALL the shieldsupers. EFT warriors here keep comparing Shieldtankers and armortankers and it looks pretty even on paper, but when shieldtankers jump into a battle they loose a very large portion of their shield. Now someone choke up a good argument for why that is fair. The amount of armortanked supercaps compared to shieldtankers alone is a very good example of this.
This has been adressed by people for years and never been properly fixed. |
Le Cardinal
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Posted - 2011.11.16 12:57:00 -
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Forums ate my post 
Can devs please comment on the shieldtankers vs armortankers imbalance? The amount of armortankers alone give an indication of the shield flaws. The Leviathan is best used as a cab atm. Might as well fit trumpets instead of missile bays. They are equally effective. This has been brought up through many years and you still havent done anything about it.
The only good thing about the Leviathan is that you may survive to the end cause your not worth killing first either way. |
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